tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639116481859847718.post4468830272714246054..comments2024-02-13T19:56:55.811-06:00Comments on World of Saz: Horde: Are they really the bad guys?Sazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01044231839209209782noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639116481859847718.post-42808939732286673302011-03-12T09:13:14.666-06:002011-03-12T09:13:14.666-06:00For those of you who read these comments and want ...For those of you who read these comments and want a live link to Rades' fictional letter: <a href="http://northrendletters.blogspot.com/2010/11/dark-lady-rage.html" rel="nofollow">Dark Lady: The Rage</a><br /><br />I thoroughly enjoyed it, take a gander!Sazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01044231839209209782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639116481859847718.post-18074806078360362632011-03-11T07:33:36.776-06:002011-03-11T07:33:36.776-06:00No problem at all, I absolutely loved your article...No problem at all, I absolutely loved your articles on Sylvanas. Sorry for not commenting as such on there, I really just fail at commenting in general -_-<br /><br />I can at least understand the angle of the Horde with some of their politics; they're more or less bent on survival having been forced through some rather unfortunate events. Alliance politics on the other hand...well, those are a different beast all together. Horde choices are usually based on the lack of choice and doing what needs to be done in order to keep on keepin' on. The Alliance on the other hand *seem* to have the best interests of the world at heart, but are often short sighted and sometimes rather racist, thus resulting in some incredibly unfortunate decisions.<br /><br />It will be rather interesting to see how the Forsaken's tale will unravel. From the story standpoint I really see them breaking away/being forced out of the Horde, especially with how Sylvanas and Garrosh really don't see eye to eye. Of course if the Sylvanas and her Forsaken leave, there isn't much left of a tie to the Horde for the Blood Elves. The Horde's alliance is just so fragile, so much so that I can easily see the whole thing just fracturing horribly. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out though, seeing as though there's no way Blizzard would make players choose a new faction affiliation, or new characters in order for players to keep raiding with their friends. I'm honestly wondering if Sylvanas will be put down (for a third time) and if the Undead will see a new leader, and how the Blood Elves will take it.<br /><br />Thank you so much for that link by the way. I thoroughly enjoyed that letter! I'm curious as to what Vereesa's response would have been.Sazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01044231839209209782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639116481859847718.post-78720019705354100072011-03-11T05:10:10.051-06:002011-03-11T05:10:10.051-06:00Thanks for the link! What a great, fair analysis o...Thanks for the link! What a great, fair analysis of one of the most classic debates in WoW. Now, I'm pure Horde, so I'm admittedly biased, but I think you're right on the money. I honestly believe only Orcs and Forsaken could even come close to being classified as evil with justification, and the Orcs have a lot of grey areas. (I always say that they were manipulated & used just like the Night Elves, and if the Orcs are evil for being misled on Draenor, the Night Elves must be too for blowing up Azeroth.) ;)<br /><br />That being said, the Forsaken...there's a lot of weird, ominous stuff going on with them right now. I'm apprehensive, but at the same time, REALLY excited to see what will happen with them. Especially with Sylvanas!<br /><br />If you found any of the tinfoil hat speculation about her interesting, you may want to read a fictional letter written "by Sylvanas" a while back: http://is.gd/bVcwhy :)Radeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07258438792268722044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639116481859847718.post-54008005790710321142011-03-09T09:47:24.791-06:002011-03-09T09:47:24.791-06:00I'm still not terribly trusting of Garrosh fro...I'm still not terribly trusting of Garrosh from what bits I've learned about him. He certainly seems to be the polar opposite of Thrall, which could definitely be a bad thing for the Horde.<br /><br />Now, I only managed to get through the first 10 levels or so on my trial Undead Rogue, but everything that I had come across was just grade-A sketchy. Having the Val'kyr bringing people back from the dead is just straight up wrong, but even so I'm not yet 100% convinced that Sylvanas's motives are really hers. Right now she almost seems like Garona to me, where she herself isn't inherently evil, but she just can't control herself no matter what she does.<br /><br />Actually, I've been meaning to link this to you Linds, since we've talked about Sylvanas a few times haha. The fella at <a href="http://www.orcisharmyknife.com/search/label/sylvanas" rel="nofollow">Orchish Army Knife</a> wrote a couple of fantastic posts on Sylvanas. They're tinfoil hat-ish, but he definitely makes you think about whether or not Sylvanas is really all her right now, or if she's back under the sway of someone else.<br /><br />Or she may have finally cracked from all the stress of being a leader, being kidnapped and killed, bring brought back from the dead as a slave, becoming a leader again except this time it's to a motley crew of people affected by the plague, being friggen killed and raised again...yeah, I would have cracked too probably -_-Sazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01044231839209209782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639116481859847718.post-82919173856310147102011-03-09T08:18:52.391-06:002011-03-09T08:18:52.391-06:00Sylvanas is bat shit crazy. I had a friend tell me...Sylvanas is bat shit crazy. I had a friend tell me to do the quest chain in Silverpine, so I did and it just made me hate her even more (even though it was pretty awesome. I just did Gilneas and you know me my worgen cities.) So, I was bitter I guess. I did laugh however when Garrosh called her a bitch.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17066511428475862808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639116481859847718.post-66897223275304885302011-03-08T06:09:46.641-06:002011-03-08T06:09:46.641-06:00I'm sure that a good chunk of the Forsaken do ...I'm sure that a good chunk of the Forsaken do indeed live with a lot of self loathing. Hell, Lilian Voss was in straight up denial of her unasked fate and was in straight up disbelief that those she cared about would treat her as they did simply because she was turned into something against her wishes. <br /><br />However, it seems like some of the Undead have taken their fate and twisted it into something vile. The apothecaries are brewing up something nasty, and I don't think there's much stopping them.<br /><br />I think that most of the main characters and races haven't asked for their fates, but the Forsaken have certainly received the short end of the stick. I really wish they could simply go back to their graces and get some peace, but with the Val'kyr around doesn't much look like that's gonna happen : /Sazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01044231839209209782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1639116481859847718.post-90092764219383415942011-03-08T05:27:47.872-06:002011-03-08T05:27:47.872-06:00I never quite considered the Horde evil, they'...I never quite considered the Horde evil, they're just more.. hmm.. bent on survival perhaps.<br /><br />The Forsaken story especially I find rather touching. There are people who never asked to become what they are - and I keep imagining that at least some of them must live with a certain level of self-loathing at what they've become. (The Lillian Voss quests are rather interesting for a perspective on this)Sagahttp://spellbound.nunoreply@blogger.com